Meet a PSE Therapist: Irene Angemeer-Keis
Interview with Irene Angemeer-Keis
Naturopath Irene Angemeer-Keis has over 20 years of practical experience. She joined her husband Marcus Angemeer's practice in 2003 and began training as a PSE therapist in 2004. Today, Irene Angemeer-Keis conducts more than 900 PSE tests annually at the practice in Wertingen, near Augsburg. While the practice covers the entire spectrum of treatment cases, it has established a strong reputation, especially in pain therapy. We spoke with Irene Angemeer-Keis about her experiences with PSE, its significance in the group practice, and much more.
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Hello Ms. Angemeer-Keis, do you remember what led you to train in PSE over 20 years ago? In other words, how did you first come across PSE?
Yes, I remember it very clearly. A friend and colleague from Switzerland told us that he had started using a therapy method that could identify hidden psychological conflicts through testing and treat them with homeopathic remedies. I was so inspired by his report that my husband and I soon traveled to Switzerland to be tested ourselves. We both tested positive for a central conflict, as we were going through a significant period of upheaval at the time. What I found particularly impressive was how, within a very short time, my life theme was clearly identified – something that hadn't come through as succinctly even after lengthy psychoanalysis a few years earlier. This set in motion profound transformative processes.
Do you perform PSE testing or therapy with every patient? What other methods do you use, and how do you and your husband divide responsibilities in the practice?
Of course, there are patients who come specifically for PSE therapy. However, most patients visit our practice because of complaints and pain in the musculoskeletal system that are often resistant to treatment. We both use a combination of various manual therapies – including dry needling – which allows us to help the majority of patients. My husband focuses exclusively on this therapeutic approach and achieves great success with it. I, on the other hand, also incorporate PSE and regressive hypnotherapy. Often, you can sense as soon as you touch a patient that their autonomic state would prevent effective regulation through manual therapy. To quickly help such patients shift to a different state, I may briefly test for a suitable acute remedy or use the organ test set to identify priority interference fields, such as issues in the intestinal flora or liver metabolism, along with the appropriate medication. This approach is not about performing a full PSE “by the book.”
How do your patients respond to the energetic, subtle nature of PSE testing and therapy? Do you encounter any negative reactions from patients who prefer a more hands-on, tangible approach?
People suffering from painful conditions tend to become very focused on the body, often viewing both the problem and the solution as purely physical. However, they frequently come to realize that many “hands-on” therapies often provide only short-term relief. Such individuals can be extremely skeptical or even dismissive of subtle therapies. In these cases, their inner tension and anxieties are often not consciously recognized – they only feel the pain.
But of course, there are also PSE sessions where people’s eyes light up – or fill with tears – because, often for the first time, they feel understood as a whole person. This is especially true when their fundamental character type is addressed. These are the moments when I realize that PSE can achieve something almost no other method can. The patient doesn’t have to share anything about themselves—PSE does it for them.
At this point, I’m reminded of something a patient once said after undergoing various forms of therapy over many years: “PSE has made me see!” Is there any greater compliment for PSE?
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In our preliminary conversation, you mentioned that you conduct 900 to 1,200 tests per year. With a three-day work week, that’s 6 to 8 tests each day. Clearly, PSE plays a significant role in your practice. What makes PSE so special? Could you imagine working without it?
Throughout my therapeutic career, I have encountered many forms of therapy. While initial enthusiasm led me to try several, I eventually "dismissed" many of them from my practice. But I would never want to do without PSE again. PSE testing allows us to look behind the curtain of often complex symptoms in a remarkably short time. When patients regain a clear perspective on their situation with the help of this guiding thread, it can feel, as one patient once put it, like "finding the exit from the traffic circle."
For which types of complaints and patients has PSE proven to be particularly effective?
I use PSE primarily for anxiety, panic attacks, and school phobia. Although these issues can also be effectively treated with regressive hypnotherapy, many people are hesitant about hypnosis. With PSE, they don’t even need to discuss their fears. PSE also yields very good results with enuresis nocturna, sleep disorders, skin conditions – especially neurodermatitis – allergies, and gastrointestinal disorders. For these latter issues, PSE is often complemented with supplements such as probiotics, enzymes, or phytotherapeutics. I also see very good and often rapid success with depression.
One focus of your practice is treating patients with pain. Could you share a case study from your practice that illustrates the benefits of PSE in pain therapy?
Although it was several years ago, the case of a former competitive athlete in deep existential distress due to seemingly unsolvable knee problems still stands out. After multiple treatments by my husband, each bringing only short-lived relief, he eventually agreed to be "convinced" to undergo PSE testing. The results were so transformative that he remains engaged with PSE to this day. Initially drawn to PSE for his physical symptoms, he now continues with it because he doesn’t want to lose the positive impact it has had on his overall personal development.
Do you have any tips for less experienced PSE therapists or for colleagues who are just beginning to work with this method?
Just get started, and to counter any self-doubt: it's better to do more rather than less self-therapy with PSE!
Ms. Angemeer-Keis, thank you very much for your insights, and best of luck for the future!
The interview was conducted by Andreas Beutel from the newsletter team in April 2024.